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Marvel comics vs. film

Vulture.com neatly lays out how much better Marvel comics are about diversity than Marvel movies.

Personally, if I'd known there were so many awesome women running around superhero comics, I might have tried them ages ago. And there's other kinds of diversity, too - of the six women in the all-women X-Men comic, two of them are non-white (plus Psylocke, but she's tricky), and within a few issues we're adding an Arab-American character to the team and further developing a key Indian-American (I think?) secondary character. I have been keeping less track of LGBT characters, but there are several gay boys and a bi character on the Young Avengers team, another bi character in Avengers Arena, Bling in X-Men is gay, over in Spider-land the Scarlet Spider is gay, X-man Northstar married his boyfriend last year (take that, DC), and I know there are more I'm not thinking of. FF has a trans character, too.

All of which isn't to say that Marvel comics are perfect. No. But they're a heck of a lot better at this kind of thing than the movies.

Crossposted from Dreamwidth. Comment here or there. (comment count unavailable DW replies)

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shapinglight
Oct. 23rd, 2013 09:25 pm (UTC)
Quite true, and why the hoohah! about Billy the Vampire Slayer in the Buffy comics seemed so dated. Marvel have had gay characters in their stories for years.

And it's a lot longer than that since Apollo and the Midnighter first kissed.
snickfic
Oct. 23rd, 2013 09:26 pm (UTC)
Was there a Billy the Vampire Slayer in the Buffy comics? I missed that. Was it a transgender person?
shapinglight
Oct. 23rd, 2013 09:27 pm (UTC)
No, he was gay. And they made such a fuss about it. You'd think he was the first gay male character in comics.

It didn't help their case that the character was so badly conceived and sort of parachuted into the story for no reason other than to be gay.

Edited at 2013-10-23 09:28 pm (UTC)
snickfic
Oct. 23rd, 2013 09:31 pm (UTC)
Wait, so he was just guy who was gay? Was he a real powered-up Slayer? Because I have feelings about the idea that gay guy => girl, and they are not positive feelings.

Was the hoohah from the fans or the promotion?
shapinglight
Oct. 24th, 2013 09:06 am (UTC)
No, he wasn't powered up. But he, for some reason, gets to call himself a slayer, even though he's only doing what Xander, Wesley, Gunn etc have been doing for years without earning the title.

And by the end of season 9, he was getting slayer dreams.

Because I have feelings about the idea that gay guy => girl, and they are not positive feelings.

They insisted it wasn't that (the character was conceived by Jane E, and Drew Greenberg, who is gay), but it sure felt like it.

The hoohah! was from the promotion. Most fans were cynical. A few loved it and said they found the character empowering, but I suspect they were non-comic reading gay fans, who thought Joss and Dark Horse were doing something brave and new, rather than being ten years behind the times.

JMHO.
snickfic
Oct. 24th, 2013 01:39 pm (UTC)
That's... weird. It sounds, at the very least, super clumsy. I am not sorry I missed it (as with most everything I hear about the comics). Thanks for the summary, though. :)
angearia
Oct. 25th, 2013 11:49 pm (UTC)
But he, for some reason, gets to call himself a slayer, even though he's only doing what Xander, Wesley, Gunn etc have been doing for years without earning the title.

Yeah, and on top of all of that, Billy was immediately amazing at fighting and immediately brought into the Scoobies. It was all very speshul snowflake.
snickfic
Oct. 25th, 2013 11:49 pm (UTC)
That... is so weird.

(Also, hey! Nice to see you around! :) )
angearia
Oct. 25th, 2013 11:54 pm (UTC)
What made it even more annoying was that two issues were devoted to this speshul snowflake noob, while Xander and Dawn were wasting away in the background, plus there were interesting WOCs who were just... forgotten. Being about diversity means have lots of diversity just there all over the place, not cultivating one shining example and placing it on a pedestal built from stereotypes. Yeah, I'm still irked.

It's around that point that I just gave up on the comics. Which is such a dramatic turn for me from my feelings towards Season 8.

(also hi! I've been lurking and noticed you've been really getting into comics. Your post on Saga has ~intrigued me.)
snickfic
Oct. 25th, 2013 11:57 pm (UTC)
Yeah, okay, that all sounds ridiculous. Yuck. But the comics had been failing to meet my needs for a long time before that, so. :)

(YAY. I mean, heh heh heh. I meant it to do that.

And yes, I'm kind of REALLY EXCITED about comics right now. Do you or have you read comics besides Buffy?)
shapinglight
Oct. 26th, 2013 05:49 pm (UTC)
I do wonder if anyone at Dark Horse realised why people didn't like the character, or they're just putting the dislike down to homophobia, the way they put all the dissatisfaction with Angel's story down to people hating the character?
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