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I have rarewomen words! Words I like! I know exactly what I want to do with this fic and have known since a day after I got the assignment, and it is a thing I can do without the handwringing that began my Beyond Panels assignment, and I am altogether very pleased. Plus the prompt gives me an excuse to write an aspect of canon I've been wanting to write for quite a while. YAY ALL AROUND.


Upcoming films, because I went to see Winter Soldier yesterday and there trailers.
* Lucy, with body horror and ScarJo with out-of-control powers? And also Morgan Freeman? YES PLEASE I WILL WATCH THE HECK OUT OF THAT. Even though the ~science is clearly ridiculous.

* Godzilla looks very silly, but also probably cooler than the last Godzilla remake, and I am a TOTAL SUCKER for giant megafauna which I may have mentioned, so. Also Bryan Cranston, what even.

* Maleficient looks more interesting than I expected. I can see why people have been getting a femslash vibe from it. I will definitely wait on reviews, though.


Speaking of, yes, I saw Winter Soldier! Unspoilery version: I enjoyed it quite a bit, for pretty much exactly the reasons I expected to enjoy it.

* Chris Evans. Chris Evans' everything. SUCH perfect casting.
* Steve Rogers, honest as the day is long, teaming up with Natasha, brimful of spy secrets. I would quite happily have watched a movie of just them, pushing at each other over things like loyalty and trust and honesty and identity. And also them making out on escalators wearing hipster threads. :D
* Sam Wilson. He was perfect, his wings were great, and Tumblr gifsets suggest that Anthony Mackie is an absolute treasure. More, please.
* Bucky! Oh man, I can see this series is going to give me ALL the Bucky feelings I wanted from Brubaker's run but couldn't get. That said, given the title of the movie, I was expecting significantly more Bucky. In fact most of the story I wanted seems to be in the next movie instead. Curses!

Things I liked better than I expected:
* The plot was very much less McGuffin-y than most of the MCU movies so far, and I really appreciated that. Yes, there was the stupid must-put-circuitboard-in-helicarrier device, but I never had to believe in the magical thingy that did mysterious wonders via swirly lights, so that was a real bonus.
* Sebastian Stan. He made no impression on me in the first Cap movie and his face as a face is not my type of face, but as the conflicted Winter Soldier he worked really well for me.
* Zola's character design: MUCH less stupid looking than in the comics. Good work team.

Other things:
* I am resistant to the idea that Steve might eventually pair up with Sharon, whom we've never seen before, rather than Natasha or Bucky or Sam or someone (even though the chances of any of those is super unlikely, I realize!). However, I already liked Emily Vancamp via Revenge and she does a great job with what she's been given here. Hopefully the character can win me over in the next movie.
* Apparently MCU!Sam does not in fact talk to birds. Alas.
* Brubaker's Winter Soldier plot, which was folded into a much larger plot involving an aging ex-Soviet sharing brainspace with the Red Skull, was really dumb. Really really dumb. It dragged on forever and it neatly circumvented basically all emotional impact the basic Winter Soldier premise had. However, I have to say I much prefer Bucky as a specifically Soviet creation to a Hydra one. Hydra is Nazi as much as it is anything related to the real world, and while I can see the sense in tying back to the first movie that way, Bucky as a cold war weapon just seems so much more interesting to me, and it avoids the lololfictional feel of Hydra.

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Apr. 12th, 2014 12:42 am (UTC)
I got the feeling that the Winter Soldier was a Soviet thing that Hydra had appropriated--or perhaps they'd been in on its creation by infiltrating the KGB the same way they did SHIELD, but still, I had the Cold Warrior vibe.
Apr. 12th, 2014 05:30 am (UTC)
I do think they tried to keep some Soviet roots there - I think they have him speak Russian during the freeway scene.
Apr. 12th, 2014 10:32 am (UTC)
I think they tried to have their cake and eat it too. Look, HYDRA! front and center to avoid offending anyone and...and possibly the usual hollywood thing of "the audience will be too stupid to understand the cold war", but then they've got him speaking russian and with the star and show him getting dragged away from the river by a russian (?) soldier. So it's all very vague, but the general impression is HYDRA. I don't think they're going to go very deep on this, on his backstory, whenever they decide to address it, which is a shame. I don't think they need to underestimate the audience.
Apr. 12th, 2014 07:35 pm (UTC)
Yeah, exactly. I mean, I don't know that I have any moral or intellectual high ground, here; it's not like I'm demanding historical cold war accuracy or anything. I just like the more espionage-centered feel with a nationalistic basis, rather than the mad science feel with bonus racism that we often get from movie Nazis. But what we get here feels like we tried for both and ended up with neither.
Apr. 12th, 2014 08:07 pm (UTC)
Yes, that's it exactly. although I will say that if the x-files and fringe and also to a certain extent actual history have taught me anything, it's that soviet mad science is fertile ground for fiction. I think part of it is that the cold war spurred truly bizarre projects on both sides, the kind of stuff that meets every definition of mad science- being whacked out and bizarre, hubristic, and horrifying, Whereas the Nazis mostly just perfected slaughtering people. With a side of horrific medical experiments that were less medical and more just straight up sadism.

And now I've depressed myself thinking about real world mad science and nazi atrocities. I like mad science as a fictional theme because it's an excellent vehicle for exploring many of the tensions and anxieties of the modern, industrialized world. There's a reason it's such a modern invention. But the real thing- or at least, the closest real analogue- is an entirely different matter.

And I think that while I'd have been more comfortable with a traditional mad science theme in the movie (soviet or not), the inclusion of Nazis (even if they tried to remake them into generic fascists, I can't forget the nazi element) is not something I can really come to terms with, because that inclusion basically rules out the actual mad science themes (anxieties and tensions, etc) but they never actually engage with what it was the Nazis were. or what they did. They're just....they're not even generic fascists. They're generic super-villains. And that really, really bothers me, the more I think about it.

Sorry, this turned into an essay in your comments. If you can believe it, I originally intended just saying "I agree!".
Apr. 12th, 2014 02:11 am (UTC)
I'm glad you enjoyed Winter Soldier! So far I've been hearing that it's been really satisfying for people. I'm not really into the superhero movies (though I adored Thor 2, XD), so I haven't seen the first Captain America, but anything with Scarlett Johansson in it gets an automatic multiple gold stars of approval from me! Same with this Lucy film, which I'd not heard of but AM GOING TO GO LOOK UP NOW. *_*
Apr. 12th, 2014 05:32 am (UTC)
The first Cap movie was definitely a superhero movie, and not, IMO, a very good one at that, but this is a whole different genre than anything else in the MCU so far, much more spy thriller than anything else. So you might enjoy it! All the people in it are very fun.
Apr. 12th, 2014 04:56 am (UTC)
We should go see Lucy together! I WAS SO INTO THAT PREVIEW. And housemate rolled her eyes which surprised me because we have basically the same kinks. But I don't think I BASICALLY JUST TURNED INTO A GOD NOW WHAT DO I DO interests her as much as me. Of course, we can always all go together. When does it come out and when are you free? (And even if we don't see it together we should hang out. I miss you! I've been sucktastically busy.)
Apr. 12th, 2014 04:58 am (UTC)
But I gotta say I'm really disappointed by the Maleficent previews. I think Maleficent is the coolest and I think the movie looks stupid. BUT THAT IS ME.

Also Winter Soldie = <3 and I have the EXACT same feelings about Stan. Never once interested me before in anything (though it's not like I dislike him! I was just so wholly indifferent. UNTIL NOW.)
Apr. 12th, 2014 05:36 am (UTC)
I would love to go see Lucy with you! It comes out in August, which is perfect, because I get five weeks off starting in the beginning of August. So we should pencil that in. :DDD

I miss you, too! I figured you were probably super busy. Woe.

I guess I should qualify my comment re: Maleficent. I agree that it doesn't look good. However, I liked the whole finding-her-wings thing, and I liked the look of the forest creatures.

You know, as long as Stan was anything better than a cardboard box with eyes drawn on in sharpie, I was pretty sure I was going to like him as the Winter Soldier, because the Winter Soldier is like someone stuffed my id in a box and gift wrapped it for me. So that wibbly "I knew him" scene roundabout the middle, right before the brain wipe? I was 100% there.
Apr. 12th, 2014 07:00 am (UTC)
Oh cool! We should see each other before August, though.

I purposely didn't read ANYTHING about the Winter Soldier because I knew I wasn't going to have time to really read the comics I wanted to, so I figured I might as well do it the other way around and watch the movie first and read later. But from the little bit I knew, I was thinking I would like the Winter Soldier . . . but I was just unexcited about it being Stan. I just didn't think he would ever do it for me--not like he's bad or anything. I just didn't think I would have a THING for him. But OMG that brain wiping scene. UGH. Okay I love brainwashing regardless of what is happening but brainwashing + identity fuckery? YES PLEASE.
Apr. 12th, 2014 07:40 pm (UTC)
I will be honest, though I found the actual 5-issue-or-so Winter Soldier comics arc passable, on the whole that run of Captain America did not impress me at all. I definitely would not recommend it to someone who's already unexcited about comics as a medium. One 2.5 hour movie has already given me more of what I wanted from that premise than I got from 35+ issues of comics.

brainwashing + identity fuckery? YES PLEASE.

Right?? Okay, so I'm going to link you to this kinkmeme prompt I stumbled over last night, because I'm not going to write it myself and I want it SO BAD. So now my misery is shared. :D

We should totally see each other before then. I will say April is shaping up to be super busy for me, but maybe sometime in May?

Edited at 2014-04-12 07:40 pm (UTC)
Apr. 12th, 2014 10:37 am (UTC)
So here for Godzilla because ludicrous megafauna action films are WHERE I LIVE.

Maleficient looks more interesting than I expected. BUT o.O How could it NOT be interesting? I mean. It's MALEFICENT, yo.
Apr. 12th, 2014 04:10 pm (UTC)
I mean, she's my favorite Disney cartoon villain, because she's terrifying, but that's not the same as being complex enough to carry a story, you know?

DID YOU SEE PACIFIC RIM. I feel like we probably have had this conversation before, but if not, YOU MUST SEE IT.
Apr. 13th, 2014 03:41 am (UTC)
Have some faith, man.

And no, I still haven't seen Pacific Rim. ONE DAY.
Apr. 13th, 2014 03:49 am (UTC)
Apr. 13th, 2014 09:36 am (UTC)
Apr. 12th, 2014 11:35 pm (UTC)
I continue to be confused as to what a hipster is, but I am glad you liked Winter Soldier.

I am so excited for Lucy!
Apr. 13th, 2014 02:51 am (UTC)
Lucy does look awfully fun. :)
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